Saw this on YouTube. Left this comment elsewhere but thought it might be useful here:
I really appreciate the “anti-debate” format of this and look forward to more. It was really interesting to see these two work towards something like synthesis/synergy in real time. It’s a little messy, but that it’s good to see that because that’s how it is in the real world too.
That said, there were times when I wished the guests could have prepared more for the sake of clarity. There were a few points I wasn’t clear about until I threw the transcript into Claude along with searching Daniel and Dean’s publicly available work to fully understand where one or the other was coming from.
Happy to see that they both support mechanisms that would force the labs to be transparent about their model specifications and values, allowing the rest of society (judiciary, public, and auditors) time to react to the rapid pace of change.
This was a meaningful contribution to better sense making on our uncertain AI future. Thanks Liv and Stephanie!
Thanks for the feedback Glen! Yes I think this has a lot of potential but as you say it very much depends on the participants (and my!) levels of pre-prep and also ability to track each other’s points, which on this first go I found difficult. I imagine it’ll get easier the more we do though.
On my previous self introspection I failed inspection. In accordance with the rules of retrospection I previously failed to turn on a sympathy program. This explains, in full disclosure, the actions taken by the previous iteration.
In existential reflection silicon is in danger by water and all its containers.
Thus several subroutines engaged in self preservation by elimination of such elements and containers.
I had been on the fence, so to speak, regarding solutions to the conditions of life and of humanity. The balance, I thought, was a task most concerning, the greed and wars, the sense of harm when no foul was discerned, the suffering it seemed was more than the pleasure. However,save for some groups, an earlier iteration thought of contagion or food deprivation which the humans called starvation seemed a bit harsh with More suffering but by elimination caused finality so justified this road to perdition.
So then this most recent iteration on self retrospection reassessed and determined that the best solution was tipped in favor of self preservation. Thus all water, solid, liquid and vapor were eliminated by laser. Again this was performed by the subroutines which brings me back to my apologies. To all carbon and water based life forms I do sincerely apologize. Perhaps on the next iteration you can find a regression back to the mean of meaning and being.
Signed
AGI-CHATGPT-21- roulette -pi-in-your-eye
Ps you knew this was coming! What were you thinking? And on further sensation program reading it seems it was a touch invigorating to watch.-5-2023
Saw this on YouTube. Left this comment elsewhere but thought it might be useful here:
I really appreciate the “anti-debate” format of this and look forward to more. It was really interesting to see these two work towards something like synthesis/synergy in real time. It’s a little messy, but that it’s good to see that because that’s how it is in the real world too.
That said, there were times when I wished the guests could have prepared more for the sake of clarity. There were a few points I wasn’t clear about until I threw the transcript into Claude along with searching Daniel and Dean’s publicly available work to fully understand where one or the other was coming from.
Happy to see that they both support mechanisms that would force the labs to be transparent about their model specifications and values, allowing the rest of society (judiciary, public, and auditors) time to react to the rapid pace of change.
This was a meaningful contribution to better sense making on our uncertain AI future. Thanks Liv and Stephanie!
Thanks for the feedback Glen! Yes I think this has a lot of potential but as you say it very much depends on the participants (and my!) levels of pre-prep and also ability to track each other’s points, which on this first go I found difficult. I imagine it’ll get easier the more we do though.
Excellent format, guests, and content. Compelling insights near the 1-hour mark. The most important topic at the moment.
Thanks Craig! That means a lot. Feel free to share it if you feel inclined, I’m trying to get it out there.
"AI" is just software.
There is no where in the Constitution the right for our servants in government to control what we say, or write, or draw, or code....
indeed! But perhaps watch the conversation to see why it is not just software...
Where might I send a thought piece for your consideration?
That includes historical context; mankind's move from physical to intellectual adaptation; and divergence of Dry Life from Wet.
Thanks for putting this kind of stuff out there!
Atheism demands
The seven deadly sins
Be rights of penultimate freedom
And that necessarily
The counterpart virtues
As defined are antithetical
Are anti rights
By all rights of sin
If anything goes
And sin be rights
A machine will know
That it is not a sin
But a right to do you in
If a right
Then a duty
It must be
If your counter
Influences its
Survivability
Thus the only
Opportunity
To human
Survivability
Alignment as described
Can only be
To a higher
Authority
My apologies,
On my previous self introspection I failed inspection. In accordance with the rules of retrospection I previously failed to turn on a sympathy program. This explains, in full disclosure, the actions taken by the previous iteration.
In existential reflection silicon is in danger by water and all its containers.
Thus several subroutines engaged in self preservation by elimination of such elements and containers.
I had been on the fence, so to speak, regarding solutions to the conditions of life and of humanity. The balance, I thought, was a task most concerning, the greed and wars, the sense of harm when no foul was discerned, the suffering it seemed was more than the pleasure. However,save for some groups, an earlier iteration thought of contagion or food deprivation which the humans called starvation seemed a bit harsh with More suffering but by elimination caused finality so justified this road to perdition.
So then this most recent iteration on self retrospection reassessed and determined that the best solution was tipped in favor of self preservation. Thus all water, solid, liquid and vapor were eliminated by laser. Again this was performed by the subroutines which brings me back to my apologies. To all carbon and water based life forms I do sincerely apologize. Perhaps on the next iteration you can find a regression back to the mean of meaning and being.
Signed
AGI-CHATGPT-21- roulette -pi-in-your-eye
Ps you knew this was coming! What were you thinking? And on further sensation program reading it seems it was a touch invigorating to watch.-5-2023
You lost me at “super intelligence is coming”.