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#50 - Samantha Sweetwater - Indigenous Wisdom, Ecology and AI

The path to alignment never did run smooth...

What if our ultimate purpose is to harmonize the forces of nature, including the nature of ourselves?

My guest this week thinks so. I sit down with systems thinker and author Samantha Sweetwater to talk about the meta-crisis and her new book “True Human” - a stunningly unique civilizational roadmap for these funky times.

I was introduced to Samantha via Daniel Schmachtenberger, whom many of you likely know (watch his episode here), and I was blown away by her vast expertise, which bridges everything from complexity science, indigenous wisdom, embodiment, psychology and systems theory. Much like this project, Samantha’s on a mission to explore how we might transition from the old extract-and-dominate paradigm towards a more reciprocal, harmonious and flourishing future.

We discuss so much: from game theory and institutional design, to how dreams and psychedelic insights are more valuable than we realize, why chatbots are effectively sociopaths, and why any attempt to align AI without listening to indigenous ecological knowledge is really f’ing stupid. We also explore new story structures, power OVER life versus the power OF life, and what a truly win-win civilization might look like.

If you’re interested in AI alignment, systems change, and generally defeating Moloch etc, this is one for you.


Chapters
02:18 – Samantha’s Backstory
11:55 – Finite And Infinite Games
17:00 – True Human
21:55 – Exploring Dreams
34:28 – The Great Separation
38:51 – Power Of Life vs Power OVER life
44:36 – The Balance Between Masculine And Feminine
1:05:23 – Observing An Animate World
1:14:45 – Achieving Transmigration
1:24:28 – Practices To Become More True Human
1:42:14 – On AI Alignment
1:59:58 – Begin To Embody Intelligence
2:06:31 – Why Homo Sapiens Exist To Serve Sentience

Links:
♾️ True Human Book: https://www.samanthasweetwater.com/tr...
♾️ Samantha’s Substack:



♾️ Silent Spring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_...

Credits:
♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree
♾️ Produced by Luca de Vico

The Win-Win Podcast:
Poker champion Liv Boeree takes to the interview chair to tease apart the complexities of one of the most fundamental parts of human nature: competition. Liv is joined by top philosophers, gamers, artists, technologists, CEOs, scientists, politicians and more to understand how competition manifests in their world, and how to change seemingly win-lose systems into Win-Wins.


#AI #ecology #complexity

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